the governor's budget plan works, and you can pay for it, and his tax cuts, i think he'll be hard-pressed to say that well i'll get back to you, i don't have time. i think the debate's going to be interesting and they're going to have to back up their statements. i think they'll be held to account for more than they've been held to account for as far as the facts and the details in this hour debate, hour and a half debate. >> it will certainly be fascinating. for now, thank you very much. >> thank you, piers. >>> here to break down all the debate strategy in tonight's battleground america, two "new york times" columnists on opposite sides. charles blow and ross dalfell. thank you both. i see you're already snarling across the newsroom. >> we're great friends. >> i don't want to hear that. >> he's my favorite conservative. >> no time for friends. let me start with you, ross. romney's got it all to play for, good and bad, depending on who you talk to. this is make or break time in a good or bad way. chris christie believes and i will quote here, i've seen mitt romney do this before.